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. a recent police executive research forum study this year h six cities in america, $38 million, $38 million in costs due to firearms violence in america. over $100 billion is estimated per year in loss due to violent gun crime in america. it's time to address this issue. >> you know, matt, final question to you, you know, one of the challenges we know certainly the atf has had in terms of doing its job and sort of making some of these things become a reality is that they haven't had a leader for a very long time, and part of the reason for that is that this is now a senate confirmed position. the nra was part of pushing that. do you think there could be any will to try to change that back to being a presidential appointment without having to go through the senate confirmation process which seems a little bit ridiculous at this point? >> i doubt it. i mean, obviously, the atf needs a head. whether it's -- conservatives will talk all day about operation fast and furious. clearly they need a head. i want to say this about the nra. i think they've become -- they are a very powerful lobby. there
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